AMS Group A (Loreto, Olga, and Ty) COMMENT (Traducir - To Translate) final posting

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AMS Group A DEFINITION (Traducir - To Translate) for TAM Group A
“Traducir” From Spanish:1) to translate (from one language on another)2) to interpret, interpret 3) to express, transfer (feelings, thoughts)1) algo an algo; de algo; en algo to translate that on (some language); with (some language); (the good; bad language)2) to understand; to interpret; to comprehend3) algo (en algo) to express that (than; in what); to reflect that (in what); to transfer that (than)4) to translate 2) to interpret, interpret(ABBY Lingvo dictionary)Translate:to render in another languageto express in different words; paraphraseto change from one form, function or state to another; convert or transformto express in another medium.(American Heritage Dictionary)to turn from one language into another or from a foreign language into one’s own.to change the form, condition, nature, etc.of; transform; convert.to explain in terms that can be more easily understood; interpret.(Dictionary.com)From: Benjamin, Walter. "The Task of the Translator.""Translation is a mode. To comprehend it as mode one must go back to the original, for that contains the law governing the translation: it's translatability.""... any translation which intends to perform a transmitting function cannot transmit anything but information-- hence something inessential. This is the hallmark of bad translations."

TAM Group A CHALLENGE (Traducir - to translate) for WAR Group A
Every performance expresses something (an idea, metaphor) in their own (different) words, changes forms, emotions into other forms or emotions and expresses them through different medium.So, from this point of view, is performance just a translation or is it an interpretation?And where is the border between these two?If translation includes interpretation and transformation is it an art or a craft?And is there more performativity or theatricality in translation process?In Russian the word "translyatsiya" means "broadcast" (e.g. football broadcast on TV, etc.). So, in this case "translation" is not more than just "transmitting" images, pictures as they are. One Russian director while making a movie based on Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment" said: "All I wanted to do is to preserve original text." So, is this movie just a "translation"? And is it possible for a performance to be just a translation?

WAR Group A Response ('Traducir') AMS Group A
Keyword: Traducir (Translation).Please find below the previous posts:"So, from this point of view, is performance just a translation or is it an interpretation?And where is the bordrer between these two? If translation includes interpretation and transformation is it an art or a craft? And is there more performativity or theatricality in translation process? In Russian the word "translyatsiya" means "broadcast" (e.g. football broadcast on TV, etc.). So, in this case "translation" is not more than just "transmitting" images, pictures as they are.One Russian director while making a movie based on Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment" said:"All I wanted to do is to preserve original text."So, is this movie just a "translation"? And is it possible for a performance to be just a translation?it so is there performance at all.Does the visual apparatus work as theWhere is theShould a translation"and"“Traducir” From Spanish:1) to translate (from one language on another)2) to interpret, interpret 3) to express, transfer (feelings, thoughts)1) algo an algo; de algo; en algo to translate that on (some language); with (some language); (the good; bad language)2) to understand; to interpret; to comprehend3) algo (en algo) to express that (than; in what); to reflect that (in what); to transfer that (than)4) to translate 2) to interpret, interpret(ABBY Lingvo dictionary) Translate:to render in another language to express in different words; paraphrase to change from one form, function or state to another; convert or transform to express in another medium.(American Heritage Dictionary)to turn from one language imto another or from a foreign language into one’s own. to change the form, condition, nature, etc.of; transform; convert. to explain in terms that can be more easily understood; interpret.(Dictionary.com)From: Benjamin, Walter. "The Task of the Translator.""Translation is a mode. To comprehend it as mode one must go back to the original, for that contains the law governing the translation: it's translatability.""... any translation which intends to perform a transmitting function cannot transmit anything but information-- hence something inessential. This is the hallmark of bad translations."Right.We were interested in applying reception theory. What the audience brings to a particular performance will affect the way in which they interpret that performance. It will affect the way in which they translate that performance.Lets take in to account the process of 'transmission'. By this we mean the projection of meaning from a performer to a spectator. What goes between sender and receiver. Both are translating. Transmission might be that flow of information from the performer to the spectator. Translation is the process of dealing with this transmitted information.The performer undergoes a similar process. S/he might translate the information transmitted from, for example, a script and, in turn, the script writer.Now it gets complicated. What about the performer's process of observing the spectators? This blurs the flow of information. The performer turns into a spectator and the spectator into a performer. The transmission of information is reversed. And here begins a far deeper relationship between performer and spectator. We want to refer you here to Kierkegaard's Ram that Sruti Bala referred to in her lecture this morning.Where might Augusto Boal fit in? Might his theatrical process work to reveal this relationship between performer and spectator? The boundaries are blurred. Please refer to invisible theatre in his book, 'Theatre of the Oppressed' or 'Rainbow of Desire'.

COMMENTS:

We want to emphasize the word traducir, as verb, as an action word, which can mean the translation of one language into another, or from one state to another. That transition / translation from one language / state / form to another is a creative process. In this process, the essence of the original, in a Benjaminian sense, is maintained. As he says, one can never duplicate the original. It doesn’t make sense, especially in creative practices, especially in performance. But that doesn’t mean we can’t translate the essence.

We also want to assert that even before Augusto Boal, the lines of transmission between performers and spectators have always been blurred. Even in the most conventional theatre, the actors “read” and “translate” the responses of their audience and are influenced by these cues. This is what makes performances alive and immediate and unique.

Thank you, everyone, for the incisive comments.